How should we tier Blaziken?

Meh. If it survives a kick, it wins.

252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 236 HP / 0 Def Blastoise: 286-339 (79.8 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Here's a proposal - we've got two pretty ardent opinions going on here, so how about we run it on a trial basis for three months? After time's up, we can renew the poll, if need be.

Also, Feraligatrs aren't useless! And they someday might gain access to Sheer Force.

SS, your option to switch in a Feraligatr is flawed in respect to. If the Blaze is out and you switch in your Feraligatr and the Blaze has used a move, your Gatr takes over half, then the Blaze protects. It then outspeed with 2 Speed boosts, its not taken a hit from your Feraligatr and your Feraligatr taken over half HP already...

In regards to someone not running Swords Dance and Baton pass, Most of the blaziken on battle spot tend to run both and if you only need the boosts, you don't need attacks... Anything would love a +2/+2 Physically.

Nearly all the Pokémon you listed are relatively common in battles or growing in popularity... how about some of the Pokémon I love to use?

Mega Blaziken +2 252 Atk High Jump Kick VS 252 HP/ 252 Def Torkoal =152-180 (85.8 - 101.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Mega Blaziken +1 252 Atk High Jump Kick VS 252 HP/ 252 Def Furfrou = (192.7 - 227.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO After Baby - doll eyes

Mega Blaziken +1 252 Atk High Jump Kick VS 252 HP/ 252 Def Gastrodon = (107.7 - 127%) -- guaranteed OHKO

I use these walls.... and none of them can take two hits.... Even if I manage to take the Blaziken out my physical wall is likely gonna be crippled...

Tommorow is the last day for voting on this case please be sure to get your votes in.

Those walls are in Never Used, Aurath. A Feraligatr can do it. Manectric can't switch in on a choice banded Talonflame and live. But some of is understand that by experience and find ways to counter. A Blaziken is the same. Fine, drop a wall and get a Feraligatr. Or a Noivern. And that is a Mega Blaziken after a swords dance you are using. A bit too much there.

Such pokemon you using are in a different tier for a reason. You must struggle in the OU tier with or without Blaziken. But Feraligatr is in NU. Feraligatr, 252 Hp/ 252 Att, can take a High Jump kick from a life orb Blaziken and OHKO back with Waterfall. Blaziken also doesn't have priority attacks, so Aqua Jet checks him even with Focus Sash.

all this Feraligatr talk is stupid. Azumaril accomplishes the same thing, takes less damage, and is all around a better pokemon.

Azumaril has a decent chance to check even on the switch but will basiclaly have no HP left afterwards, and will almost certainly fail if hazards are in play. In either case, Azumaril can revenge kill.

It would first be, on the switch, either
252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 172-203 (42.5 - 50.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

or

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 343-406 (84.9 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

depending on SD or not

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 320-378 (105.9 - 125.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Also yeah - those pokemon are irrelevant, Aurath. You can't use them and expect to win. If you want to use them, start an NU tournament or something. My articuno is itching for a real battle.

>:O Hey I ALWAYS use Pokémon like that and fair well against you guys ;P

Pretty sure you've never won against me while you've had furfrou, gastrodon, or torkoal in your party

Actually gastrodon was OU last gen and somehow dropped like a stone this gen... love its typing and ability, plus recover and usable defensive stats... it's not a bad mon... oh well, highly off-topic...

What's with all the Feraligatr hostilities, Far? I'm right here, you... lizardist.

^I thought you'd be happy that I am discouraging the switching of innocent Feraligatrs into oncoming high-jump kicks.

But Hi Jump Kicks to the face build character! And lawsuits.

I feel like if you take a tall pokemon, like steelix, and switch it to a really short pokemon, like azumaril, high jump kick should miss...

Wouldnt it make more sense if the accuracy was decided by the pokes height? I mean HIGH jump kick, short pokemon shouldn't get hit with kt much as they're not up high.

Wouldnt it make more sense if the accuracy was decided by the pokes height? I mean HIGH jump kick, short pokemon shouldn't get hit with kt much as they're not up high.

^omg that makes so much sense. Joltik = ultimate HJK counter...

The High Jump Kick is not a height biased move XD A high Jump Kick is a kick where the user jumps up high or from a height to use a mixture of gravity and momentum to deliver a stronger kick, the fact that the user hurts itself if it misses is, like in the real world, using a high jumping kick would lead to injury if you missed.

Yeah, the animation is a downward strike as well.

stop taking all my fun!

besides, as long as the kick isn't coming down vertically, getting shorter all of a sudden would make you miss!

lol, if Pokemon was a reasonable world.

I'm extending the vote on this as I feel that not everyone made their vote especially clear. Please say and make it clear that you are voting for OU or Uber (or whatever).

Vote extended to 8/29

*sigh*

Mega = uber
Regular = uber

Can't, in good faith, put blaziken back in the pool... even though it would make the fire gym unstoppable.

Mega = Uber
Speed Boost = OU

Wyanaut?

Mega = uber
Speed boost = OU

Same as Yf

Both forms Uber