A place for pokemon players to chat, trade, battle and other pokemon related activities
 
HomeCalendarFAQSearchMemberlistUsergroupsRegisterLog in
Welcome to Pokemon Wars!
March's Pokemon of the month is Latios!

Share | 
 

 How should we tier Blaziken?

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

How should we Tier Blaziken?
Uber
33%
 33% [ 5 ]
OU (But ban Mega form)
27%
 27% [ 4 ]
OU (including Mega)
40%
 40% [ 6 ]
Total Votes : 15
 

AuthorMessage
SickSouls
Fighting/Electric Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 1217
Join date : 2013-05-26
Age : 21
Location : Melancholy Hill

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:08 pm

Meh. If it survives a kick, it wins.

252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 236 HP / 0 Def Blastoise: 286-339 (79.8 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

_________________


-Omac15
(thanks, bud!)
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Burliest Bear
Flying/Ghost Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 431
Join date : 2013-10-27
Age : 31

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:40 am

Here's a proposal - we've got two pretty ardent opinions going on here, so how about we run it on a trial basis for three months? After time's up, we can renew the poll, if need be.

Also, Feraligatrs aren't useless! And they someday might gain access to Sheer Force. Razz

_________________
Come on down to the Love Shack, baby.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
[PN] Dark Lord
Dark/Psychic Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 626
Join date : 2013-11-27
Age : 27
Location : Centre of the Earth

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:48 am

SS, your option to switch in a Feraligatr is flawed in respect to. If the Blaze is out and you switch in your Feraligatr and the Blaze has used a move, your Gatr takes over half, then the Blaze protects. It then outspeed with 2 Speed boosts, its not taken a hit from your Feraligatr and your Feraligatr taken over half HP already...

In regards to someone not running Swords Dance and Baton pass, Most of the blaziken on battle spot tend to run both and if you only need the boosts, you don't need attacks... Anything would love a +2/+2 Physically.

Nearly all the Pokémon you listed are relatively common in battles or growing in popularity... how about some of the Pokémon I love to use?

Mega Blaziken +2 252 Atk High Jump Kick VS 252 HP/ 252 Def Torkoal =152-180 (85.8 - 101.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Mega Blaziken +1 252 Atk High Jump Kick VS 252 HP/ 252 Def Furfrou = (192.7 - 227.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO After Baby - doll eyes

Mega Blaziken +1 252 Atk High Jump Kick VS 252 HP/ 252 Def Gastrodon = (107.7 - 127%) -- guaranteed OHKO

I use these walls.... and none of them can take two hits.... Even if I manage to take the Blaziken out my physical wall is likely gonna be crippled...

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Pokemon Wars
The Supreme Overlord Admin
avatar

Posts : 864
Join date : 2013-04-14

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:45 am

Tommorow is the last day for voting on this case please be sure to get your votes in.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://pokemonwars.forumotion.com
SickSouls
Fighting/Electric Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 1217
Join date : 2013-05-26
Age : 21
Location : Melancholy Hill

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:47 pm

Those walls are in Never Used, Aurath. A Feraligatr can do it. Manectric can't switch in on a choice banded Talonflame and live. But some of is understand that by experience and find ways to counter. A Blaziken is the same. Fine, drop a wall and get a Feraligatr. Or a Noivern. And that is a Mega Blaziken after a swords dance you are using. A bit too much there.

Such pokemon you using are in a different tier for a reason. You must struggle in the OU tier with or without Blaziken. But Feraligatr is in NU. Feraligatr, 252 Hp/ 252 Att, can take a High Jump kick from a life orb Blaziken and OHKO back with Waterfall. Blaziken also doesn't have priority attacks, so Aqua Jet checks him even with Focus Sash.

_________________


-Omac15
(thanks, bud!)
Back to top Go down
View user profile
far257
Fire Gym Leader


Posts : 415
Join date : 2013-09-28

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:18 pm

all this Feraligatr talk is stupid. Azumaril accomplishes the same thing, takes less damage, and is all around a better pokemon.

Azumaril has a decent chance to check even on the switch but will basiclaly have no HP left afterwards, and will almost certainly fail if hazards are in play. In either case, Azumaril can revenge kill.

It would first be, on the switch, either
252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 172-203 (42.5 - 50.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

or

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 343-406 (84.9 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

depending on SD or not

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 320-378 (105.9 - 125.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Also yeah - those pokemon are irrelevant, Aurath. You can't use them and expect to win. If you want to use them, start an NU tournament or something. My articuno is itching for a real battle.

_________________
3ds friend code: 1822-0013-0289
Back to top Go down
View user profile
[PN] Dark Lord
Dark/Psychic Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 626
Join date : 2013-11-27
Age : 27
Location : Centre of the Earth

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:06 pm

>:O Hey I ALWAYS use Pokémon like that and fair well against you guys ;P

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
far257
Fire Gym Leader


Posts : 415
Join date : 2013-09-28

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:40 pm

Pretty sure you've never won against me while you've had furfrou, gastrodon, or torkoal in your party Razz

Actually gastrodon was OU last gen and somehow dropped like a stone this gen... love its typing and ability, plus recover and usable defensive stats... it's not a bad mon... oh well, highly off-topic...

_________________
3ds friend code: 1822-0013-0289
Back to top Go down
View user profile
DF
Resident Punching Bag
Resident Punching Bag
avatar

Posts : 298
Join date : 2013-08-15
Age : 23
Location : In the middle of the Pastoria Swamp. Tourists come by here every so often and then I get a snack

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:18 pm

What's with all the Feraligatr hostilities, Far? I'm right here, you... lizardist.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
far257
Fire Gym Leader


Posts : 415
Join date : 2013-09-28

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:20 pm

^I thought you'd be happy that I am discouraging the switching of innocent Feraligatrs into oncoming high-jump kicks.

_________________
3ds friend code: 1822-0013-0289
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Burliest Bear
Flying/Ghost Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 431
Join date : 2013-10-27
Age : 31

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:53 pm

But Hi Jump Kicks to the face build character! And lawsuits.

_________________
Come on down to the Love Shack, baby.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
far257
Fire Gym Leader


Posts : 415
Join date : 2013-09-28

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:26 pm

I feel like if you take a tall pokemon, like steelix, and switch it to a really short pokemon, like azumaril, high jump kick should miss...

_________________
3ds friend code: 1822-0013-0289
Back to top Go down
View user profile
GiantWhirlpool
Champion
Champion
avatar

Posts : 353
Join date : 2014-05-17
Age : 20

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:30 pm

Wouldnt it make more sense if the accuracy was decided by the pokes height? I mean HIGH jump kick, short pokemon shouldn't get hit with kt much as they're not up high.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
GiantWhirlpool
Champion
Champion
avatar

Posts : 353
Join date : 2014-05-17
Age : 20

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:30 pm

Wouldnt it make more sense if the accuracy was decided by the pokes height? I mean HIGH jump kick, short pokemon shouldn't get hit with kt much as they're not up high.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
far257
Fire Gym Leader


Posts : 415
Join date : 2013-09-28

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:31 pm

^omg that makes so much sense. Joltik = ultimate HJK counter...

_________________
3ds friend code: 1822-0013-0289
Back to top Go down
View user profile
[PN] Dark Lord
Dark/Psychic Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 626
Join date : 2013-11-27
Age : 27
Location : Centre of the Earth

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:17 pm

The High Jump Kick is not a height biased move XD A high Jump Kick is a kick where the user jumps up high or from a height to use a mixture of gravity and momentum to deliver a stronger kick, the fact that the user hurts itself if it misses is, like in the real world, using a high jumping kick would lead to injury if you missed.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Burliest Bear
Flying/Ghost Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 431
Join date : 2013-10-27
Age : 31

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:37 pm

Yeah, the animation is a downward strike as well. Very Happy

_________________
Come on down to the Love Shack, baby.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
far257
Fire Gym Leader


Posts : 415
Join date : 2013-09-28

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:43 pm

stop taking all my fun!

besides, as long as the kick isn't coming down vertically, getting shorter all of a sudden would make you miss!

_________________
3ds friend code: 1822-0013-0289
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Burliest Bear
Flying/Ghost Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 431
Join date : 2013-10-27
Age : 31

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:50 pm

lol, if Pokemon was a reasonable world.

_________________
Come on down to the Love Shack, baby.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Pokemon Wars
The Supreme Overlord Admin
avatar

Posts : 864
Join date : 2013-04-14

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:05 pm

I'm extending the vote on this as I feel that not everyone made their vote especially clear. Please say and make it clear that you are voting for OU or Uber (or whatever).

Vote extended to 8/29
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://pokemonwars.forumotion.com
far257
Fire Gym Leader


Posts : 415
Join date : 2013-09-28

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:10 pm

*sigh*

Mega = uber
Regular = uber

Can't, in good faith, put blaziken back in the pool... even though it would make the fire gym unstoppable.

_________________
3ds friend code: 1822-0013-0289
Back to top Go down
View user profile
SickSouls
Fighting/Electric Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 1217
Join date : 2013-05-26
Age : 21
Location : Melancholy Hill

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:01 pm

Mega = Uber
Speed Boost = OU

Wyanaut?

_________________


-Omac15
(thanks, bud!)
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Burliest Bear
Flying/Ghost Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 431
Join date : 2013-10-27
Age : 31

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:52 pm

Mega = uber
Speed boost = OU

_________________
Come on down to the Love Shack, baby.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
GiantWhirlpool
Champion
Champion
avatar

Posts : 353
Join date : 2014-05-17
Age : 20

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:41 pm

Same as Yf

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
[PN] Dark Lord
Dark/Psychic Elite 4
avatar

Posts : 626
Join date : 2013-11-27
Age : 27
Location : Centre of the Earth

PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:34 pm

Both forms Uber

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: How should we tier Blaziken?   

Back to top Go down
 
How should we tier Blaziken?
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 3 of 4Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 Similar topics
-
» How should we tier Blaziken?
» Other tier lists that came from No Quarter mag
» Added a Tier List to the C.R.A.T.E. Prize List
» PSASBR Tier List BY VOTE
» Pokemon Wars Court Case: Houndoom v. Blaziken (Example Court Case)

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Pokemon Wars :: Battles :: Pokemon Wars Court-
Jump to: